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Post by Jakka on Sept 26, 2009 17:04:43 GMT
Starting date is getting closer and we don't have nothing yet. Let's speed up things.
Less talks more votes and everybody has to accept it. Mkay?
This poll shall take only few days let's say until Septemper 30 (if it's a draw Crespo shall decide) The next day we make a poll TNL vs NNN-league. (the term 'nnn-luckless' was obselete many months ago it's called nnn-league now! ;P)
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Post by Antares on Sept 28, 2009 6:14:37 GMT
Ye, to speed up things i changed my vote for Intern instead of Public.
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Post by Koras on Sept 28, 2009 15:05:38 GMT
yea good idea
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Post by Antares on Sept 29, 2009 9:30:58 GMT
Ok, was quick enough... i vote for NNNxLuckless aka NNNL scheme
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Post by khamski on Sept 29, 2009 11:21:06 GMT
no... lets hear for Koras
he said we must play tnl before voting
so we must do it guys
voting without playing tnl doesn't count
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Post by Koras on Sept 29, 2009 15:03:51 GMT
very sorry but I cant play tnl vs U today evening, if I will play any game it will be ONL.... because mablak want be first again:( btw from obvious reasones(its all about SD witch dont come sin every round) U should play at least 10 games to see difference:) or just 3 game svs Antares inda cave>< U can also watch some replays from TNL league if U want see a difference.
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Post by Jakka on Sept 29, 2009 16:53:27 GMT
I can play TNL against anyone who wants to test TNL scheme just buzz me in the right moment.
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Post by khamski on Sept 29, 2009 17:40:02 GMT
Well i played it guys
thoghts so far:
- boring - completely different scheme (though there is just one change)
The whole strategy of the game changes. Agree? I think you all are.
So why should we stress players like that? Why should we use CWT as a test tourney?
In the previous year we used luckless and it was fully tested already.
I say tnl is bad idea.
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Post by Jakka on Sept 29, 2009 18:22:42 GMT
TNL scheme is fully tested also, you won't find any skilled non NNN member that prefers "luckless". If you don't trust me on that then ask around (if you don't trust me on that, then ask around) And as you see alot of NNN members would like to see TNL scheme too. If you don't you don't force your will upon us as a boss, then me starts a TNL vs NNNL scheme poll tomorrow. Regarding your "boring " comment. A tournament especially os this size isn't meant to entertain particular persons it's meant to find out the very best player at this scheme therefore you need to make sure you play a scheme that can will most probably deliver the fairest possible result. And in this case the pros for TNL are just overwhelming
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Post by khamski on Sept 29, 2009 18:46:40 GMT
As i said already we decide everything by voting So yeah go on with that poll as it was planned. But i still have a right to add arguement don't i? "If you don't trust me on that then ask around (if you don't trust me on that, then ask around) And as you see alot of NNN members would like to see TNL scheme too." 1. why support that minority of non-nnnl players? Pr and Sabre? Sabre is inactive. Pr supports this scheme because he created it. 2. How would you know that nnn players support nnnl? You guys shut their mouthes and didnt give them a chance to vote. I just ask you guys to care about the tourney and don't take decisions that may can be harmful. Everyone hated FaD... I say ban FaD.. everyone says lets leave FaD. Tnl was just another idea. I said nnn-league. Everyone voting for tnl. I am not playing this tournament. I don't have any personal motives involved! Take your decisions with a thought of tournamnet success please! Again i say: It is totally ANOTHER scheme. So players must train to play it! NNN-League scheme is already played by everyone. Lets give a choice. Those tnl lovers will have there chance to play beloved team. And those who hate it may come and play da dam tourney. So lets include the third option to that poll.
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Post by Jakka on Sept 29, 2009 19:01:42 GMT
I added something in last post because I didn't see you replying. Why people always talk about sabre and pr only as you could read I said all of skilled non nnn members, so basicly we can interpret that you sentence as that all non nnn's besides pr and sabre are newbs? I know NNN members support it because I'm on of them, am I not? And there are more ask around really. I know it's hard for people to let go the things they are used to and adapt something new, but this is how life is going. ;D So since you don't want to make a decision alone let's stop discussing then. EDIT: It has to be only one scheme and one only. EDIT: We can open a thread (not a poll) saying something like "What would you think if this tourney was played on TNL scheme?" So the people those of who you think I/we am/are shutting their mouths can give their thoughts on that issue and maybe affect some of the MODs decision.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2009 6:35:08 GMT
I m totaly against tnl.
I suppose, that everybody signed up to cwt thinking we gonna play nnnl scheme. Its common, that you play the same scheme then year before. If you want to play tnl, you should have announced it, before we started sign ups. I would be disappointed by setting tnl as first scheme. I could agree, if we could agree on a compromise: Just if both player agree with tnl, they are allowed to play it.
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Post by khamski on Sept 30, 2009 8:05:41 GMT
Jakka:
We had a chance to let people decide. But voted to shut them up. Now we gotta move on with this decision as we will on every decision we make here. No turning backs.
Tnl is a fair scheme? NNNL is not? Then why we have Dario wining 100 games in a row? If scheme is not fair he would never do it.
Agree with Joschi.
Who said we MUST have ONE scheme? mm?
And who said we must stop discussion? huh?
As you asked me. I am putting my foot down now.
Lets start the poll with 3 options:
- tnl - nnnl - both (as players agree. if they don't agree they play nnnl)
And don't start with the pushing part. This is purely democratic voting. All opinions involved. And i still have only one vote.
If we will have 2 options with same votes we will vote on them again.
And this last voting will be final because we have 5 people who vote.
If finally we come up with tnl then it will be an official CWT 2009 scheme. And those who don't like it will leave. I will have no regrets about them and no complaints at all.
But before that i will defend my point of view like you guys defend yours.
Agree we must end this discussion now.
Lets go vote!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2009 8:18:03 GMT
We have 6 mods, 6 votes.
I assume that Antares, Khamski and me will vote for NNNLeague. On the other hand we have Jakka, Jigsaw and Koras who are preferring tnl. So we have a draw, and compromise is, that each pair can agree on tnl, otherwise we play nnnl. End of discussion, eh? :-)
P.s.: I m updating profiles, and I didnt had one guy who saied tnl is his favourit scheme, thought 4 of six saied nnnl is his favourit scheme.
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Post by Antares on Sept 30, 2009 8:56:49 GMT
Yup, i think that's right. Good it's finally over
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