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Post by Fantomas on Nov 13, 2010 23:49:32 GMT
I was checking the history of previous CWTs and noticed (or better to say recalled) that in CWT2008 a match for 3rd place hasn't been played www.cwt2009.cwtsite.com/Arquivo/2008/standings.htm (scroll down). It was between (guess who) me and Terror. Terror disappeared miraculously in semi-final stage giving a technical win to random00 and never appeared or showed any willingness to play the match with me for the 3rd place! And although I was active throughout all the tournament and was ready to finish the game, I was never given the chance and bronze medal hadn't been awarded to me. The CWT was hosted by my favourite (or worst) "nemesis" Jigsaw whose work as a host was unsatisfactory at very least, seeing how much mess and disorganisation there was throughout the tournament (never give power to drunks! Elcin and Jigsaw are both good examples of what may happen). And bearing in mind his utter disaffection towards me (we know it very clearly by CWT2009 when he illegally took away the right to participate from me and other great players) it's no surprise he did nothing about this game. And nobody else cared! Now I'm proud that his and his henchmen's forum and tournament rights were voided and given to decent guys - we all see the change! (I would also vote for tribunal for his "war crimes", but I predict the feeling of guilt for his broken life wouldn't let me sleep well) j/k Okay, enough lyrics. My main idea is that I want this game to played as it had to be 2 years ago. Current mods, I need your approval.
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Post by Johnmir on Nov 14, 2010 9:27:11 GMT
SirG and me had the same situation... And it is my and SirG's fault first of all. But well, i have to say that i (nor SirGorash) would pretend on a free bronze. Too much time gone and it is not too competitive, that's my opinion. I'm not sure that current mods Joschi and Zemke could decide this. They were not mods those times.
I know your personal story, Fantomas. It was hard in CWT 2008. But Jigsaw took a really important job and responsibility. I was kicked from CWT once too. I don't blame Crespo for this, i broke the rules, it was my own mistake.
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Post by Koras on Nov 14, 2010 12:31:20 GMT
www.cwt2009.cwtsite.com/index1.htmWhat was wrong in cwt 2008??? all games played, just jakak give U free win in 1/8 and terro give free win to Rnadom00. That's all but it wasnt mod fault. About your medal, I think Terror could win cwt 2008 but his problems in house wont let him play in semi.... I dont remember U asking about this 3rd place game and trying arange this semifnal. After his break Terror was active again. Just look 2009 ONL history. So IMo U do not deserve for this medal cause U didnt beat Terror.... Me and Joschi arranged our game just after our lost 1/2. Anyway i would like too see me with bronze medal at this cwt site too. www.cwt2009.cwtsite.com/index1.htmResult is not even showed at site
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Post by Koras on Nov 14, 2010 13:15:52 GMT
www.normalnonoobs.org/index.php?op=history&fID=3&ID=23He was active in early 2009. We wait so long for final(january 2009) cause WM was really inactive.... Its not my problem, and I am not someone who will decide here. Just teling my opinion. U should talk about it earlier. Not after 2 yeras.
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Post by Fantomas on Nov 14, 2010 13:32:43 GMT
This is clearly an organisational failure from Host's side (jigsaw). He should've made a necessary decision about this game back then, but he "forgot". And my posts were ignored too. Do I need to write more examples?
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Post by Koras on Nov 14, 2010 14:41:14 GMT
P.S. even now when I tried to talk to Terror over msn and discuss this problem, he just said g2g and left. God, players like him should've been banned in 2009, not me. And that he's such good player bla bla bla is not an excuse. If the player doesn't care about the tournament, he shouldn't be allowed to participate. lol why in 2009 he played all his games and get silver www.cwt2009.cwtsite.com/index1.htmIn 2006 and 2007 U didnt played all your games too (i know not your fault... once we were is same group). In past U also make a problems for Goku and Jakka to play yours PO. The problem is U wanna talk(play?!) with him in the end of 2010. wtf lol he is not playing wa since long time. 1 post in january 2009 AFTER final of 2008 cwt instead of arrange game is not enough. crespo2003.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=talk&action=display&thread=408&page=8Terror and Random,wm was trying too arrange thier games here. While U didnt .
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Post by Dario on Nov 14, 2010 15:22:53 GMT
wtf is this excuse? if you want to play your game, you find a way to do this Do I really have to explain why this sentence, coming from that person, is so damn ironic?.
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Post by Fantomas on Nov 14, 2010 15:32:16 GMT
hey Dario, I was expecting you to arrive to this topic with some sarcasm
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Post by Kayz on Nov 14, 2010 18:06:09 GMT
Fantomas, you are unique Wanting a medal after two years, thanks for the entertainment. Laughing regards, me.
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Post by Fantomas on Nov 14, 2010 18:19:04 GMT
Why was the topic moved to cwt2008 thread? Nobody reads it anymore. Let's first finish with this problem and then move the topic.
Kayz, this is not a topic to post jokes, I'm dealing with a serious case here. And I'm not gonna relax until something is done.
And I never wanted a free medal, if it's possible to play this game, this would be the best solution, but if not, what can I do?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2010 19:39:41 GMT
I moved the topic because I won't allow any stress/bad feelings for the current running tourney. I don't have an opinion in this case. It's actually not our (Zemke & Random00's) buisness at all. My job is called CWT 2010. Nothing else. Actually I wasn't even close to be in business around 2008. I neither can remember at your case. I doubt Random00 does. Maybe you just get asked Terror?
Your objection that nobody will read your posts at CWT 2008 topic is wrong. Everybody will be surprised to get a "new" marked topic in old CWT 2008 forum. You don't have any disadvantages there.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2010 19:46:54 GMT
Yes, we should fix it. But actually it was never our job to do it.
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Post by Fantomas on Nov 14, 2010 20:00:35 GMT
The reason I'm addressing this to you, Joschi and other current hosts, is that you're the hosts and the owners of the tournament rights (not only cwt2010, but the whole cwt and also the new cwt site). Only you can make necessary corrections and decisions. Nobody else can do that. (maybe Crespo can also, but he's out of business and not really in charge here anymore, also it's hard to reach him). And this is an official appeal to you. You may either accept it or reject it, it's your choice. I have provided all information and logical explanations in this thread so you could make your own judging.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2010 20:38:12 GMT
Well, in fact you might be right. Right in your opinion that we are in duty now to clearify this.
But I still wounder about your late (!) requestion. After a talk with Jigsaw and Terror I will inform you. This may take his time.
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Post by Fantomas on Nov 14, 2010 20:50:52 GMT
Thanks. But try to be as impartial as possible when talking to Jigsaw, he's good at convincing other people in what he wants.
Regarding your other question, I don't like to repeat myself, I wrote about it already.
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