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Post by Koras on Sept 12, 2009 17:24:04 GMT
Hey I saw Khamski baned FaD(because he is/was baned in ONL) i think its not fair.... if players liek GeneralHorn(lazy ass aka tournamnet killer who NEVER played all his group games because he didnt have any chances to reach play offs) can play here. FaD made a big mistake so he is baned in ONL... i think 3 month ban in our league is enough punishment for him:)
ban for GHorn pls, he played 3 times in CWT and he always failed....
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Post by Jigsaw on Sept 13, 2009 6:25:04 GMT
And what did fad learn from that onl ban? he keeps cheating. We know when he cheats, but he still may take advantage of some uninformed players.
Fantomas should be banned, he got more than 1 last chance already.
Horn should be banned for the reason Koras brought up, very valid.
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Post by khamski on Sept 13, 2009 7:02:12 GMT
Okay discussions started. Good. First of i wanna say one thing. 90% of decisions concerning CWT 2009 will be taken by a MODs voting. So no dictatorship here in any way. Thats why we need to define who will be the MODs asap. 10% will be decided by me. It will be things that where MODs didn't found agreement. I will take the responsibility. Okay back to the topic: FaD is banned because of cheating in ONL. Yes it may seem unfair. But it's not. I am not his enemy. I am kind of tolerating guys like him, Kin and others. It is really not that hard to be a bit above the childish verbal attacks. But this guy is a threat to the CWT 2009 system itself. And i just used him as an example for every participant that we are not joking here. 'Cause we are not. But as i said. MODs voting decideds it all here. So i vote: FaD stays banned. Fantomas did a lot of bad things. But he didn't cheat. when it comes to a game guy plays like a man. No whining. Everything else will not be a problem because of fixed time of games and strict 'no compromise' rules. I vote: Fantomas plays Same with Horn. Yeah he is lazy and boring. But he didn't cheat. I vote: Horn plays
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Post by Jigsaw on Sept 13, 2009 9:05:00 GMT
Seriously, Fantomas has been laughing at cwt rules throughout the years and you want to allow him to carry on? He's like a smart evil kid, who does bad stuff and then plays innocent and is never punished.
He brags how successful he was but did you already foget how he got his victory? that was a spoiled tournament and now he keeps bragging about it, fucking moron. I don't care who is going to vote and how, Fantomas has to be banned or else I will feel like a naive idiot. Please reconsider.
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Post by Koras on Sept 13, 2009 9:32:07 GMT
I dont care about FaD:) ban in is fine... I just think a bit too strick punishment, but nevermind. "Same with Horn. Yeah he is lazy and boring. But he didn't cheat. I vote: Horn plays" Its not about cheating... he is only player who didnt play all his games in last year + he is very weak player(will be better if Felo or Wriggler take this spot... witch will be wasted by him :0 ). I played vs 2 years ago Fantomas.... was very very hard to arrange games vs him ban for him? idk
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2009 10:59:58 GMT
My personal banning ranking:
1GHorn, 2FaD, Fantomas.
Means, I agree to kick GHorn, because its proven that he just can play at one night in week just to an especially time. You cant organise a tournament with guys like him.
FaD: I think he should play. Most important thing why I vote for him is his activity. I dislike him too, but you can arrange games with him. We cant be 32 lovley players.
Fantomas: Personally I dont know a reason for banning him. Jigsaws opinion about him is new to me, thats why I dont want to vote in this case.
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Post by Jakka on Sept 13, 2009 11:23:17 GMT
Keeping Horn away from CWT sounds reasonable, it is, however, uber rude to do so now and not letting him know before sign ups.
Can't say much about the other two.
Kinslayer has proven many time that is is worth being banned everywhere.
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Post by Jigsaw on Sept 13, 2009 11:56:28 GMT
Think why does Horn even want to play in CWT? He doesn't have time, he doesn't play worms AT ALL, as a result he sucks.
Same with fantomas really. He doesnt play when there's no cwt but everytime he comes back to fuck up the current edition. If you don't know Fantomas you should just keep in mind that he has been warned too many times to get another chance. He fucks with cwt, cwt should fuck him, he will live with that.
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Post by khamski on Sept 13, 2009 12:47:59 GMT
So what do we have here:
Jigsaw FaD - ban Fantomas - ban Horn - ban
Koras FaD - ban Fantomas - ban Horn - ban
Joschi FaD - plays Fantomas - plays Horn - ban
Jakka FaD - ban Fantomas - ban Horn - plays
Khamski FaD - ban Fantomas - plays Horn - plays
ban/play
FaD - 4/1 Fantomas - 3/2 Horn - 3/2
Lets wait for, Anta. I have a feeling we need him to close the circle.
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Post by Jigsaw on Sept 13, 2009 14:01:36 GMT
I thought we are discussing and not yet voting? I wrote some stuff so I'm hoping at least Joschi and Jakka wont be so stubborn and will trust my judgement regarding Fantomas and I don't know Khamski, how you figured Jakka's votes, he didn't state anything
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Post by khamski on Sept 13, 2009 17:45:51 GMT
You caught me... I have direct access to Jakka's brain.
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Post by Koras on Sept 13, 2009 20:54:07 GMT
If I could I would let FaD play:) 100% ban just for GHorn...hmmm fantomas idk he is so bad he will be out after group stage:) Polish Champs! ;D
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2009 21:33:57 GMT
I saied I dont want to vote in Fantomas case. But it seems I have to choose black or white... Couldnt life been also so easy?
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Post by khamski on Sept 14, 2009 9:02:24 GMT
You know it is kind of rude to ban someone without no clear reason. I mean FaD cheated in ONL and he was banned. What Fantomas or GHorn did recently? Nothing. And we ban them just because we decided so.
I propose another solution. We will declare that Fantomas and Ghorn step in the tourney with yellow cards. Another yellow and they are gone.
btw football idea of yellow and red cards is kind of good... don't you think? i mean if someone did someone very bad he can get red rgith away. without previous yellow.
And in new CWT organisation Rules we will define the situations that lead player to yellow and red card punishments.
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Post by Jigsaw on Sept 14, 2009 10:13:59 GMT
We will declare that Fantomas and Ghorn step in the tourney with yellow cards. But Fantomas already got 2 yellow cards! in 2006 he fucked up really badly, we had to wait for him 3 MONTHS before he kindly came and played his final game! FIRST YELLOW CARD - he played in 2007 the he was pissing off Dario, having him wait for weeks before they played, even though I specifically told him, that it would be better to him to play and lose in time, than to prolong the game, lose to Dario anyway, and be banned in future SECOND YELLOW CARD - I somehow got soft and let him play in 2008 and you should remember best how he was messing around, you were pissed off too, or did you forget already? If after that we let him play then we're being stupid, plain and simple. Now the difference between Fantomas and Horn, is that while they cause much troubles and delays, Fantomas is actually a malicious bastard, Horn is just kind of stupid. As for Fad there is no real reason to ban him from CWT, he cheated in onl, but that's cwt not onl. You want to ban Fad on assumption about what he *might* do, but want to spare Fantomas and Horn even though they fucked up several times already? I don't understand you at all.
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