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Post by Rafka on Nov 25, 2009 15:29:41 GMT
yea but when its 2-2 and in 5th round one player has easy last wining move and He EXCIDENTLY fall and lost, that doesnt mean that he is/was worse player, so in my opinion there are some "bl's" that shouldn't be teated like something "worse" (or player called worse).
Of course another thing is sd or even "start posision" which in for example both rounds can be a lot better than oponents. It can help a lot one of players. Thats why some results are really surprising, I'd say many even.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2009 17:16:27 GMT
Rafka: It would be a lot easier for yourself if you accept, that every winner is a deserved winner. Doesnt matter how he reached it. You say that luck can decide in fifth round. Maybe. But why player A did allowed his opponent to win this 2 rounds before? We can consider each case for his own, or on the other hand, just attempt that each player get his chances during rounds to decide the game for his fortune. But yeah, to claim about bad luck is a much more comfortable situation, then to consider your own fails. So it was a higher power fighting against you.
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Post by Rafka on Nov 25, 2009 17:33:24 GMT
ye but look if I'd lost my game vs someone only because of a "bad day" or just "bl" and I won that guy before 10 times in a row You cant say that guy is better than me cause he isnt. Its obviously.
So 1 game doesnt change anything. I know You prefer not to mention about luck but there is something like luck and will always be and You cant change that. Not mentioning that doesnt change it.
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Post by khamski on Nov 25, 2009 20:51:28 GMT
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Post by Johnmir on Nov 26, 2009 6:55:40 GMT
Since we talk about serious games, i'm seriously doubt there are bad days possible. I still remember i played in 1/4 final of cwt vs Bytor with a headache (long time ago) but concentration were too high. Probably it was harder concentrate, but i still managed to do that, i had to.
So far, a good player must always be able to concentrate if it really needs (especially pro player).
Agree with Joschi again. You can lost 1 round by positions or bad luck or something else. But not 3.
Bad lucks are possible but that happenes really too rare!
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Post by Rafka on Nov 26, 2009 13:55:24 GMT
hehe You were concentrate enough to beat Bytor, but if U'd got better player it propably would not be enough. Still as I sad before, when someone wins 1 game on 10 or 15 Hes not better.
There ar to many factors to say that every winner is better player, cause He isnt always better. Besides as You all see there are usually bo3 games played not bo5 (leagues, NNN tourneys, stage groups CWT) so cmon....
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Post by Koras on Nov 26, 2009 16:48:33 GMT
yeah Rafka is better then us even if he lose:)
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Post by Bytor on Nov 26, 2009 18:01:50 GMT
I agree with Rafka on some points. CWT is one game on one day. Remember the year Fhantoms won?
We have all lost CWT games to players we have no trouble beating most other times. In addition to it being one game on one day, there is also the nervous factor. It is not a perfect system but its the best we got.
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Post by khamski on Nov 26, 2009 19:34:13 GMT
I don't agree.
Best player is not a guy who has better skills.
Best player is he who can use his skills in the tough situation... and win.
Watch "Braveheart"... The scene where they were throwing stones.
"Yes you are tough here but how will you act in battle?"
or something like that
Skills don't mean shit if player fails to use them in deciding moment.
Its like in that World Cup 2010 knockout game Russia - Slovenia.
Russia had better skills... but in that deciding game in Slovenia most of the players were paralized by fear.. and they lost.
So who is better?
Slovenia of course.
They have that major skill... called...
BALLS
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Post by Rafka on Nov 26, 2009 19:45:14 GMT
Kham - thats not my point
Koras - really stupid coment
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2009 23:22:29 GMT
No Rafka, Koras hit exactly the point. LoL. If you take League games, do you mean I play it serious like CWT games? For me they have in most cases the same character like funners... So you cant say that if you have won 10 games in a row, you have to win CWT game also. Khamski mentioned a very good point too. I was shocked by watching russians lose in slovenia. I know the potential of the team, but at the end they wouldnt have deserved it at all. Someone who isnt concentrated until last second of match, cant complain after the match about bad luck situations  |
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Post by Johnmir on Nov 27, 2009 6:52:01 GMT
Bytor, the situation with Fantomas was specific, you know. It is not like that someone who is better lost. Just two noobs came to play cwt final after a 3 months break, cause of an awful delays in arranging games.
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Post by Rafka on Nov 27, 2009 13:42:20 GMT
Joschi dont tell me man that U dont play seriously cause Im gonna say I dont play seriously in CWT but I play seriously on League ok? Its a bull!
Btw. Sure I dont have to win but the chances are different and skills are the same.
Im not gonna argue anymore, I have my opinion You have Yours,
but Still Koras coemnt was senseless, cause I didnt mean myself if You wanna know Joschi. This player who is stil winnning his oponent is better even if He loses once it DOESNT change anything. Better play is still better. Simple as that. End of this useless discution. Hf!
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Post by Koras on Nov 28, 2009 22:18:27 GMT
My post was a irony... anyway U are last person who should discuss about 'theory of luck'
U complain about your positions even when they are fine:D
I just saw your game vs Xylen and I have to say U were really rude and unfriendlly:)
why? because U played bad and didnt deserved to win.... it wasnt about positions and luck.
Some guys just cant lose and unfortunately U are one of them.
If U dont change your attitude U will never reach Dario level:)
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Post by Antares on Nov 29, 2009 10:01:19 GMT
What game vs xylen? When did they play?
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