HHC
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Post by HHC on Feb 26, 2005 10:13:38 GMT
well i don't wanna play you when you're just out of bed ;D So let's meet at 10pm GMT. Is that ok? You wanna play at home or away first? If at home, we can meet up in #Elite, if away, the best candidate would either be AnythingGoes or PartyTime. Let me know where okay No probs Tele.
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Crespo
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Post by Crespo on Feb 26, 2005 15:22:22 GMT
Here are my thoughts and opinions on the Elite scheme.
It's the scheme I like the less of all the schemes allowed in CWT. Because it is played with only 4 worms and because of only 20 seconds to play (you can't make big voyages on the map on foot for example). And although say that I dislike it I also say that it is playable.
CWT Elite games should be played in AG to allow rope knocks and you should have to tune it to end at the 2nd round won (best-of-3).
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Post by NormalPRO on Feb 26, 2005 15:41:32 GMT
I think elite scheme is quite difficult but it is very good one, caz of much tactics and it allow you to show your bazooka and granade skills more compared to other schemes + you need take dicisions very fast and make brain work faster, So for me it is quite good, maybe second after Intermedite
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Post by Bytor on Feb 26, 2005 18:39:14 GMT
Yes HHC 10:00 will be fine I will see U then unless we meat on MSN before. Lets meet in AG and do my home scheme then Ur's ok?
I wish I had known we were to play Elite scheme in Anything Goes before Yesterday. While playing Teletubbie's home scheme in the elite channel I found out the hard way U can't rope knock. Cost me a rope and a chute. I also didn't make a duplicate team with a better special weapon. Those of U who know my normal SW can imagine how useless it is in elite scheme. I was totally unprepared. Yesterday was the first time I played in elite channel in about a 2 years. After my game with the old man I realize I was in much need of practice on that scheme. Dairo was good enough to help me and we played in for the rest of the day. I got the hang of the scheme now but I still hate it. :-)
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Post by Teletubbies on Feb 27, 2005 12:56:45 GMT
Hi Crespo, I hope this is not making a change to the rules during a tournament. To the best of my knowledge Elite has has always been played in the Elite channel because there is no scheme for it in AG. To play Elite in AG we would need a download scheme, but which one? There are a number out there that are slightly different to each other. I don't think it would be fair to use just any scheme as we have not discussed this before the tournament. I don't think that there should be any changes to the rules during a tournament. If people feel so strongly against it then maybe we should remove Elite from CWT and everthing else but Imtermediate. [glow=red,5,300](I think this would be a shame). [/glow] MrTPenguin mentioned on the 24th of Feb that rope knocking was not allowed in Elite channel, So this should not have come as a surprise to Bytor. The CWT rules are not clear on exactly how we should host Elite games, but the rules do say that... So this seems to rule out playing Elite in AG. What do others think?
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Crespo
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Post by Crespo on Feb 27, 2005 15:29:02 GMT
a couple of good points emerged here and I shan't reply exaustively to this issue but I do want to make it clear that:
1 » what I said back there were my feelings and not more than that. I'm not changing rules in the course of CWT 2005. So you can play Elite scheme wherever you like as long as you tune it up to best of 3. We'll clear this matter thoroughly when it's over.
2 » If it's Konrad's last year in CWT (so he has told me before) then I'll remove Elite from CWT after this is over. You might think "What does this has to do with Konrad?" Here's: In CWT 2003 Konrad pestered me a lot to put Blast Zone scheme on CWT, which I did. Consequently our bi-champion Jigsaw got grumpy and said "Hey, if BZ i in then Elite must be in." And because I had no mood to go against anyone's will hey I also put Elite (when I accepted Elite I knew right away that his scheme would give me trouble in the future because it is not a default scheme) so because now Jigsaw is off and it's maybe Konrad's last CWT I might settle this situation for the better way by removing both shemes from the CWT list.
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Post by Teletubbies on Feb 27, 2005 15:38:06 GMT
Thank you oh wise & brilliant leader ;D
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Jigsaw
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Post by Jigsaw on Feb 27, 2005 15:58:50 GMT
because now Jigsaw is off and it's maybe Konrad's last CWT I might settle this situation for the better way by removing both shemes from the CWT list. notice however, that there are other people who like to pick elite ;P
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Post by MrTPenguin on Feb 27, 2005 16:20:01 GMT
I personally would prefer to keep Elite and Blast Zone. Elite is a fast-paced and exciting scheme which is firmly established in the world of worms. BZ is as hardcore as a normal scheme can get without becoming a farce, but you can still get a good, strategic game out of it, as Konrad will no doubt testify to. In short, I think we should keep Elite (but insist on having it in the channel) and maybe keep BZ. I must admit though that I wouldn't lose any sleep if BZ was removed from the list... I myself am starting to like the "Tournament" scheme, as it feels like a cross between Intermediate and Pro. I am - naturally - still an Intermediate man
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HHC
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Post by HHC on Feb 27, 2005 17:56:27 GMT
i'd opt for having just 1 scheme, that makes it fair and easy for everyone. Personally i prefer playing Elite cause it's far more strategical, but on the other hand, we've always played Intermediate as the official scheme, and we should stick to traditions. Furthermore, i think it's more accessible to new players and the old cwt veterans alike. So i guess we should stick to Intermediate and ban all other schemes. But for this year i'll stick to my Elite
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Post by Bytor on Feb 28, 2005 17:33:42 GMT
I am all for getting rid of BZ and Elite. Most group game are played on Intermediate or Pro anyway. I have always thought Intermediate is the best because it accommodates all playing styles and allows opportunities to make up for bad luck. I for one would be happy to see the allowed schemes limited to Intermediate, especially after what I've went through in this years group stage.
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Post by Dario on Mar 1, 2005 17:40:48 GMT
If theplayoffs are gonna be played with Intermediate scheme, then I see a little bit unfair that a player that is usually better than most of cwters (just like Bytor) loses his ticked to the playoffs due to Elite, BZ or any other scheme that isn't intermediate.
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Post by MrTPenguin on Mar 1, 2005 19:11:35 GMT
CWT is a normal-game tournament. I wholeheartedly support the structure that Crespo has put in place (ie, a variety of schemes in the group stage, and intermediate-only in the knockout stage). It is a structure that has evolved over three years, and which strikes a good balance between "scheme versatility" (term coined by Crespo ) and a "level playing field".
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fury
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Post by fury on Mar 1, 2005 23:34:02 GMT
I'm ok with what's in CWT right now. But I'd love to have a separate 2v2 tournament. Have you ever played that with 3 other cwters? Man that could be awesome with more training.
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Post by Bytor on Mar 3, 2005 16:31:01 GMT
Thanks for the kind words Dario. Everyone know how I feel about elite scheme but the truth is that the playing elite scheme simply requires a totally different style then other schemes. Generally Players who concentraight on Normal are not well prepared for elite and vise versa. I just don't think the elite scheme and normals (pro, Intermediate) fit well together, the two attract completely different types of players.
On what Fury said I would love to see a small just for fun, team 2v2 tournament. Games with more the 2 players leave a lot to chance so it should not count for a lot but that would be alota fun but how would the teams be set up. Could we pick our own team mates or would it be a random grouping?
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