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Post by Voodoo on Apr 29, 2003 16:21:13 GMT
well, me and javit0 were on about it earlier....
anyone interested?
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Post by nouser on Apr 29, 2003 20:55:50 GMT
Sounds good to me!
i don't think everyone will agree though...
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Post by MrTPenguin on Apr 30, 2003 10:33:18 GMT
Nah, it a CWT clan would be a waste of time. I can only think of two reasons to be in a clan: clan leagues and inter-clan tournaments. In my brief experience of them, I found clan leagues to be crap. Plus, we already have a tournament lol. xCWTxMrTPenguin.... hmmm, nope.
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Post by Voodoo on Apr 30, 2003 19:44:50 GMT
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Post by Crespo on Apr 30, 2003 20:55:55 GMT
Yo guys, I knew someone should come up with this idea ... I should express my opinion about it. I just don't like clans. Unfortunately that would take much time and besides, we are not a team. Call us a comunity or a group of wormers, but not a clan. Whenever I win a game I wouldn't like to share the merit of the win with the members, cuz' it was my win. We love to play Worms and we play it for fun and the tournament it's just a way to gather some good honourable wormers mainly. The interested ones are free to go the way they want. I don't have nothing to do with that. Probably it's just me, but I don't like clans. Therefore you should know that I won't be a part of the supposed clan. Sorry if I disapointed anyone with my statement. Anyway, if you guys would join a clan remember I have nothing against that. Some of the tournament wormers are clan members and I let them in anyway. Once again, sorry. Oh and by the way, if any of you guys should join a clan please pick another name for it. I don't diserve to be related to the clan if I'm not a part of it.
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Post by Bytor on May 1, 2003 15:29:34 GMT
A clan my not be a good idea from a competition stand point but if we did form a clan it would keep the camaraderie and community of our tournament going all year round. So maybe a compromise. What about a club? I could put my two cents in and create and maintain a web site. We could share information,tactics, arrange games and so on. Well, let me know what yea think.
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Post by Voodoo on May 2, 2003 13:22:12 GMT
well, the problem with the tourny is that its only an annual event, a league system would rock. im gonna build something next month (when i get time), so i guess the clan, wouldnt be a clan, but kinda how it is now.... after all,,,, we are all CWT'ers, but we dont go around CWTxName'ing ourselves
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Post by Crespo on May 2, 2003 15:36:35 GMT
As I went to sleep yesterday night I thought over the matter of increasing the amount of games we play.
I came to the conclusion that the tournament it's actually fine the way it is, as MrTPenguin said to me once in voice chat. The only problem is now to make things go faster in the group stage. I would believe an adequate questionary before logging in someone in future tournaments is extremely necessary so we know that the wormer is really interested in joining us. And the help of Messenger is extremely important cuz' if we actually have the luck of finding the other wormers online we can arrange games instantly. So anyone who isn't logged in Messenger please do it now!
Now, I know when the tournament is over we won't have much to do. So, as said by Bytor, to keep up the fellowship of the tournament throughout the year, a new competition should be formed. I have an idea, here it goes: Those of us who didn't make it to the playoffs of CWT played 2 or 3 games of WWP only. So, to make a competition where no one would be disqualified and where the growth of our comunity is promoted, I would suggest a league. Everyone should play against everyone once and the participants should be picked carefully to avoid having "Zeros" or even "akkads" in the competition. The number of participants would be minor than the participants of CWT. This league would be formed in a new site, hosted by someone else (NOT ME! taking care of the tournament is enough work for me) so that the actual power of our comunity would be decentralized from me. I actually would vote for Bytor to be the host (take my vote as a complement to your dedication for Worms and for the comunity) as he has much time and skills to do the task. Both the league site and the CWT site would be heavily linked between each other and the layout of the sites should become quite similar. This is my idea... It may need improvements but the most important things are said.
About giving the comunity a name... Well, just go for it. How about the NORMAL PRO'S COMUNITY? Seems a bit dry title though... I don't feel criative enough... I'll leave it up to you guys.
Now, about something else. Although our comunity is expanding with the arrival of fresh-blood to the tournament (MrTParrot, Jigsaw, Konrad, Voodoo, Rigga, BetongAsna,...), I just noticed that there are many who haven't noticed the importance this Message Board. In fact, about half of the tournament participants rarely visits the Board (I could name them but they are many, indeed). I would recomend you guys to show yourselves (with clothes, of course), your opinions and ideas here. I mean, all of us have our lives but we never stop posting here. With this I intend to ask you wether you want to be an active member of the comunity or to be an outsider that doesn't takes part of the comunity's life. AND DON'T TAKE ME WRONG, please! I'm not saying that we care less for you but if we would form an Elite league going throughout the year, we must know who are those wormers who actually want to play in the League and who are those who prefer to play in CWT only. I just remembered to say this last paragraph cuz' I think it's really an important issue due to the fact that the comunity (which was only a term I used to call ourselves) will perhaps be formed soon. "Who's in and who's out?" It's the question that must be answered. Once again, I say to you that non-future-comunity members may enter CWT, but I would recomend that everyone who showed will to participate in the League should be comunity member only.
By the way: If ever the comunity will be formed, please don't use the comunity's initials by your nick! We are not a clan! Just a group of crazy dudes that love Worms and want to play awesome normal games...
Here's today's reflection right from the demented mind of Crespo...
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Post by Voodoo on May 2, 2003 16:06:39 GMT
the reason why not many people use the BB is......
1) When you first look at it as a non-member it appears to be empty, thats why i didnt sign up for ages
2) pop-ups.
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Post by HHC on May 2, 2003 17:04:37 GMT
3) lazyness (the ill-do-it-tomorrow principle!) My opinion is that you should stick to the tournament. Ofcourse it's too bad people can't play for cwt anymore if they have been eliminated, but they can play eachother for fun instead. I'm afraid the tournament will lose it's special touch if a league is held throughout the year. It's like the superbowl, a annual event when things get tense and everyone is hyped up about The Tournament. Imagine they would hold a superbowl every week, it wouldn't be such a special thing then and people wouldn't even get out of bed for it (so to speak..). Perhaps a small league can be created for newcomers, where they have a chance to prove their skill and attitude and if they succeed they move into next year's tournament. Bye!
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Post by MrTPenguin on May 2, 2003 20:03:01 GMT
LOL @ another MrT[animal name beginning with 'P']
I think that each year there should be one tournament and one league, preferably as far apart as possible. The tournament is fine how it is, apart from the low rate of playing games, but that matter is in hand. The league ought to comprise of about a dozen wormers, who each play each other twice.
We ought to occasionally go into wn and play normal games with strangers, and if, over time, we find them to be of a like mind to us, then we should invite them to our community.
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Post by nouser on May 2, 2003 20:31:25 GMT
sounds like a good idea.
it will make sure we still stay together as a community
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Post by Crespo on May 2, 2003 21:06:28 GMT
Well what I've said above is nothing more than a suggestion. A proposal to solve the problem of increasing the amount of games to be done...
It's not something that will happen for sure. That would only happen if there is support of a reasonable number of wormers.
Of course that CWT would be the major event. But it's a fact we need to play more games between us. Anyway, we should concentrate ourselves on finishing CWT right now.
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Post by Crespo on May 3, 2003 12:58:04 GMT
Last night I thought over HHC's reply and, in fact, I kinda' changed my point of view just a bit:
Well the idea of the league for new comers it's pretty acceptable. Cuz' if we all went to the league it would take so so much time to end and we would loose our focus in the tournament. Anyway, instead of just adding each new comer to the tournament's charts, if a small league could be created for them instead so that the best go for the CWT charts, would be a very nice idea. Anyway, as I said before we should focus now on ending CWT. When it's over we will think about these kind of matters.
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Post by Bytor on May 7, 2003 15:59:47 GMT
Sounds good to me and I think it would increase the level competition in future tournaments by screening newcomers. We should finish this years CWT first but keep discussions open. I would be more then happy to create and host anything you guys decide on.
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