HHC
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Crespo
Jul 8, 2004 15:04:00 GMT
Post by HHC on Jul 8, 2004 15:04:00 GMT
Hmm, i just saw the groups for the qualifiers, but there may be a problem. xMinix is my brother and we're in the same group. I never thought it would be a problem if both of us joined in, but it gets tricky now we are both in the same group (H). I won't manipulate the system though and probably play him as my first opponent (so we can't arrange the outcome for the deciding game like with sweden and denmark lol ). But i'd like to know what your view is on this. Whether it is a problem if both me and my bro play in CWT and whether it's a problem to have both of us in the same group. I noticed the groups are still preliminary (judging on the no-playing yet), so it's best to bring this issue up now before things take a start. Awaiting your response If it's a big problem, i will discuss it with my bro and have one of us replaced by someone else...hope not!! p.s. Am i the only one questioning the fact that there isn't a single greek player in CWT? ;D
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fury
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Jul 8, 2004 17:08:52 GMT
Post by fury on Jul 8, 2004 17:08:52 GMT
There will be one greek player soon, he will seem weak, and will go in final and beat Jigsaw ;D
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Crespo
Jul 8, 2004 17:20:48 GMT
Post by MrTPenguin on Jul 8, 2004 17:20:48 GMT
The Flying Dutchman has flown back into CWT! Is xMinix an alter-ego of IBB, or is there a third member of the worming family? Neither of my two brothers play worms... They don't know what's good for 'em, lol.
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Crespo
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Jul 8, 2004 17:23:30 GMT
Post by Crespo on Jul 8, 2004 17:23:30 GMT
Yo Bart and Danny, funny thing. The moment I looked at xMinix's last name (Hendrix) I wondered cuz' 2 Hendrix from the same country is kinda' odd, right? I sent your bro an e-mail asking and (I just saw the reply now) I guess it would be better to exchange your brother by some other wormer in another group so your brother will still paly but in one other group. MOst of my conscience really doesn't think you guys could fix the scores but please assume this as "playing safe" by the host, ok? As for the greeks issue well it's not my fault there isn't a greek here. There are few greek wormers and from those those who fit in the "CWT-way" are even less. Last year a xtdcxAlex aplied for the qualifiers but his timekeeping was awful he was delaying things so I took the guy out. The host does what he has to do. And the reason why you still can't play is cuz' CWT 2004 is still under way and a bit delayed. 3 games left now; last semi-final, 3rd place and final.
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HHC
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Crespo
Jul 9, 2004 8:50:01 GMT
Post by HHC on Jul 9, 2004 8:50:01 GMT
ah, that's ok it's the 3rd member penguin hehehe
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fury
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Jul 9, 2004 9:43:18 GMT
Post by fury on Jul 9, 2004 9:43:18 GMT
Hmmm, watching the qualifiers... I think a lot of motivated newcomers are not going to be qualified For instance, I'm sure RatoonSoft and Nyctalope are dying to (re)participate, but there will be only one... Same for Simon and Fantomas. And they are all good enough for CWT. I know there are only 8 spots for newcomers, but I think that some talent will be lost here. I'm convinced that some groups have 2 or more very worthy players, whereas some have only one less worthy player. So maybe that the qualified newcomers will not be the best newcomers in the whole bunch. What if you took the best 2 of each group, and make a big group of 16 wormers? Make them fight once against each other, and the first 8 with the most points are qualified. I think this is more fair and this is a sure way to get the 8 best (so a muuuuuch closer group stage in CWT 2005, can you imagine that? . I know this is longer, but for once just be very severe on timekeeping. Apply your rules for real, you'll see that they will play quickly (otherwise, they are just not motivated enough... so not worthy for CWT - See?). Please consider this idea, thanks.
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Crespo
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Jul 9, 2004 11:03:54 GMT
Post by Crespo on Jul 9, 2004 11:03:54 GMT
But in the end of the group stage there will be 1 knockout round where the top 2 players fight against the top 2 from other groups, so 2 wormers from one group can still qualify for CWT 2005. I don't think the idea of a second group stage would be suitable... As for the Hendrix bros, it's not the first time there is family involved in CWT. One year ago, the Gomes bros tried to qualify and only one succeeded (Semaphore) to CWT. Also, Pipinasso is my cousin and is holding on to CWT (did 2nd this year in his group and lost to Jiggy in the eight-qaurter-finals). ;D
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fury
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Jul 9, 2004 12:22:52 GMT
Post by fury on Jul 9, 2004 12:22:52 GMT
Do as you wish but I believe that a lot of attention should be paid to the qualifiers since this will determine a quarter of the wormers for next year (if not more because of quittings). I just proposed this idea in order to increase even more the quality of the wormers
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Crespo
Jul 9, 2004 16:19:27 GMT
Post by MrTPenguin on Jul 9, 2004 16:19:27 GMT
This an important point that Fury has made, and one that I spoke to Crespo about earlier. I've got what I call the "Stones in the bucket" theory about wormer-quality here. As the years pass by, weaker wormers in CWT will gradually be filtered out by their relatively stronger couterparts in the qualifiers competition. This will ultimately lead to a dynamic equilibrium in which CWT contains the current best wormers around. The analogy I draw is with a bucket full of stones that vary in weight, and are initially randomly distributed. As you shake the bucket, the heavier stones will sink to the bottom and the lighter ones will rise to the top.
The qualifying competition mustn't get bigger than the tournament itself.
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Crespo
Jul 9, 2004 18:32:45 GMT
Post by NormalPRO on Jul 9, 2004 18:32:45 GMT
Fury and Penguin are both totally right and I am with them, I think that second stage in qualifiers tournament will significantly increase the quality of wormers which will enter CWT in this year, moreover such severe filtering will help CWT to pave the way for successful future development. So, in my opinion, the introduction of such a practice in the qualifiers will be worth making and will hopefully come up the expectations.
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Crespo
Jul 9, 2004 18:45:19 GMT
Post by RatoonSoft on Jul 9, 2004 18:45:19 GMT
I'm agree with Fury ... If 3 best newcomers are in the same group, we'll lose one of them... But in the other hand I'm agree with MrT Penguin when he said that tournament itself must be more important than "qualif". I know that i'll write now is probably a BIG job to do (approximately full time job) but .. go: - What about an organisation mixed between NBA championship and classic football championship... we can imagine a big championship with 2 (3?) divisions with away/home matches, and a tournament only for 1st to 16th of the first division... Ok, ok they're quitters, some people who havn't enough time ... But what is sure for me is that more matches seem to be better, in qualifications AND in tournament...
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Crespo
Jul 9, 2004 19:22:57 GMT
Post by NormalPRO on Jul 9, 2004 19:22:57 GMT
yep more matches more u can enjoy your favorite game
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